Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Stand to Reason Blog: Youth & Apologetics

Stand to Reason Blog: Youth & Apologetics

Does apologetics still have a place in student ministry? I think it does. What do you think?


Noah Braymen said...

You know Tony Jones likes to say everything in the last 50 years has only happened in the last 50 years...[we do have some problems that took place in the last 50 years though]

He likes to say everything that took place in the modernist era is only modernist. I think he has forgotten that evangelicalism [rooted in fundamentalism] was around too, which is rooted in a few thousand years of orthodoxy. Regarding apologetics...we don't even need to argue about this...apologetics were around in the apostolic to the patristic eras of the church.

He says this of "inerrancy" as well, "Inerrancy was invented in a council in 1973 in Chicago." Well, what about BB Warfield and John Murray's views, not to mention the Puritans, reformers, not to mention the scholastics, etc.

This guy is smart, but to deny tenets of the church by labeling it "in the last 50 years" or "modernist" is just not going to fly.

Just my 2 cents!

In Christ

Shane Vander Hart said...

I agree - I am all for asking questions about how we do things, but I believe some (though not all) of those who are involved in the Emergent movement have done off the deep end. I don't remember who gave them this description, but some called Jones and the like as "angry white men disenchanted by the church". Sounds pretty accurate to me. Sometimes we can be too smart for our own good :).

Noah Braymen said...

It was probably DA Carson that coined that phrase:)

The most interesting thing to me is that they are denying two of the largest denials that the modernists made...Authority of Scripture, and Substitutionary Atonement.

It's interesting because they say they are postmodern, but it seems pretty modern to me.

Thanks for the link brother!